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roasted 10-28-2008 08:55 PM

SBR's, Supressors, Class3, etc. prone to confiscation?
 
A lot of people have supressors. More do SBR's... both require registration (along
with a whopping $200 tax stamp).
I was just curious what the likelihood of gun confiscation is.
If they do this, people who are "registered" would be targeted first, no?

Ag_man 10-28-2008 09:10 PM

Re: SBR's, Supressors, Class3, etc. prone to confiscation?
 
I've raised this point many times to my friend, who holds a Class 3, with the whole nine yards. He's about as anti-statist as they come, yet I've said "Xxx, you've got a hell of a bulls-eye on your back". He just shrugs it off and says "Fck 'em"

goldgun 10-29-2008 01:05 AM

Re: SBR's, Supressors, Class3, etc. prone to confiscation?
 
Why live in fear and not own the toys you want. We are not in control. Enjoy your life so when the time comes you are not holding onto regrets.

roasted 10-29-2008 11:25 PM

Re: SBR's, Supressors, Class3, etc. prone to confiscation?
 
goldgun,
In the end, I hope that I'll end up with LOTS to regret about. :)

Iptuous 10-29-2008 11:30 PM

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See my sig

Worldmariner 10-30-2008 12:42 AM

Re: SBR's, Supressors, Class3, etc. prone to confiscation?
 
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Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 1384235)
I've raised this point many times to my friend, who holds a Class 3, with the whole nine yards. He's about as anti-statist as they come, yet I've said "Xxx, you've got a hell of a bulls-eye on your back". He just shrugs it off and says "Fck 'em"

Uh...

**PREGNANT SILENCE**

Everyone here knows that you can UNregister a gun, correct? Take the auto sear out, or pin a long flash hider to your barrel, and UNregister the gun.
If you have, say, a short barrel shotgun, you will probably have to replace the barrel.
Notify the ATF the gun is no longer a C3, tell them why, maybe even include a picture.
Yes, you will have to give up your expensive auto sear and supressor in a confiscation, or destroy it, but at least you would keep your gun.
If you have ever filled out a Form 4473, trust me, you are in a database. If you are a member of GOA or the NRA, trust me, you are in a database. If you have ever registered to vote, trust me, you are in a database. If you have a driver's license, trust me, you are in a database. If you use your SSN to earn income, trust me, you are in a database. If you were ever in the military... well you get the idea... keyed in on your name and DOB. Cross referenced with your SSN.

Many many GIM'ers seem to be the paranoid wall flower "I don't want my name on a list! I am not even registered to vote!" types... They wring thier hands about what is happeneing, but they want SOMEONE ELSE to do the dirty work and take a chance, yet reap the rewards.

If you are one of these types, (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!) you need to remember this:

If you are too cowardly to stand up and be counted, to make your voice heard, what will you do with your gun when tyranny arrives? I mean, you already know that you are a coward, so what will you do? Take your super secret gun and go shoot someone in a blue helmet?
I think not.
We know what you will do. You will whisper about the Good Ol Days and hope that "someone else" does something, while you let your supersecret gun rust in it's supersecret hiding place.
(pardon me a moment whilst I vomit)

That is NOT how we will succeed.

Better idea:
Buy as many firearms as you want. Give them as gifts! Register as many SBR's and suppressors as you can, join EVERY pro gun lobby group you can, and learn how to start grass roots legislation. Urge your friends to get CCW permits and to buy guns, including assault rifles. Take them shooting and let them burn through a box. Turn them on to firearms. Get them going in the right direction. Turn America BACK INTO a gun culture and freedom culture and personal responsibility culture.

THAT is how to beat the Fed. The Feds just follow the rules. If the rules change so do they. They are like the Borg. They are guys, most... smart, but not brilliant, that are working away at a Federal retirement, doing thier job. If the rules tomorrow change and allow everyone to own an unregistered suppressor, believe me, the hour the legislation passes, they will stop activity related to supressors. Most of those ATF guys (that I know anyway) are not rabidly anti-gun. Most all of them own firearms themselves. They are just following the rules.
They do not get cash bonuses for finding illegal guns, such as the IRS agents receive for "recovering" "lost" revenue from recalcitrant tax payers.
(Everyone here knows that, right? The IRS guys get a slice of the recovered money as an "on the spot cash award". THAT is why the IRS guys are so rabid. They are motivated by greed)

Soapbox Rant Complete. Thanks for reading!

Worldmariner 10-30-2008 12:48 AM

Re: SBR's, Supressors, Class3, etc. prone to confiscation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roasted (Post 1384211)
A lot of people have supressors. More do SBR's... both require registration (along
with a whopping $200 tax stamp).
I was just curious what the likelihood of gun confiscation is.
If they do this, people who are "registered" would be targeted first, no?

Uh, well, this may sound stupid, but, it depends on the type of confiscation legislation passed. MOre likely will be a ban, with current owners grandfathered in to be able to retain guns/C3 items they already own.

eat_beef 10-30-2008 08:41 AM

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Great post WM.

Twisted Avatar 10-30-2008 08:52 AM

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what will you do with your gun when tyranny arrives?

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JJ_ 10-30-2008 09:24 AM

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That was a bad ass post WM... Thanks for that.

bfnelson 11-02-2008 12:31 AM

Re: SBR's, Supressors, Class3, etc. prone to confiscation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldmariner (Post 1386627)
Uh, well, this may sound stupid, but, it depends on the type of confiscation legislation passed. MOre likely will be a ban, with current owners grandfathered in to be able to retain guns/C3 items they already own.

That's typically how it works.

Also, once you have it in your hands it becomes a chore to get it away from you.

After all things get lost all the time.

I wouldn't want to be the guy in charge of collecting.


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